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Video Can Black Lives Matter & Law Enforcement See Eye To Eye?
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  • phrase all lives matter was derived from
  • black lives matter to subvert black
  • lives matter and I won't come here and
  • sit down and say that that's okay and I
  • have a law enforcement go to the left
  • pool of light by my blacklivesmatter
  • supporters go to the right pool of light
  • I regularly fear for my life you know
  • I'm an armed patrol officer so I do
  • respond to burglar alarms so if someone
  • breaks into someone's house have a gun I
  • would have to respond to that certain
  • situation I do fear for my life in a way
  • I guess you can say I do something that
  • I think every black man every black
  • person in this country many people of
  • color I've been trained to do and that's
  • when a law enforcement officer gets
  • behind me and I'm driving I'm making
  • sure I'm signaling I'm checking my speed
  • I'm thinking of all the different
  • legitimate ways that you could stop me
  • and in that moment I recognized and I
  • realized that I'm not a scholar with a
  • bachelor's in political science a
  • bachelor's in sociology a master's in
  • public policy in that moment I'm just
  • another black man to that officer and
  • that scares me
  • I may be could have stepped forward I
  • feel scared for my life when I'm at work
  • often when you get pulled over and all
  • the thoughts and things that are going
  • through your mind or where when I pull a
  • car over I'm thinking about where I'm at
  • on the highway how I'm gonna pull this
  • vehicle over did I run the plate did it
  • come back to that vehicle am i buckled
  • in am i not buckled in because most
  • officers are shot and killed during
  • traffic stops and as I approach I put my
  • hand on that car to leave my handprint
  • because if I'm shot and killed that
  • person is further incriminated by the
  • evidence of my prints being on their car
  • but I don't feel afraid for my life as a
  • citizen about at work I definitely do
  • and that's a choice I made I choose not
  • to live in fear if the question was do I
  • feel less safe now than I did five years
  • ago
  • I would say yes and I think that that's
  • because we have rampant social chaos
  • that's expanding and I think that that's
  • playing a large role and a lot of the
  • trends that we're seeing what do you
  • mean by social chaos out of wedlock
  • birth rates statistically you know that
  • set to child back five times more likely
  • to be poor and nine times more likely to
  • drop out of school and 20 times more
  • likely to end up in prison I mean the
  • caste that I'm seeing more recently is
  • white men walking into schools with
  • ar-15s and slaughtering people yeah and
  • then as well and that is what you're
  • seeing and what you're not seeing is the
  • dozens of homicides that occur in
  • Chicago on a daily basis and that speaks
  • to certainly a media that's desirous to
  • push an agenda and a narrative that
  • factually doesn't bear out there is a
  • massive disparity between black crime
  • and white crime and large and obviously
  • that's going to lead to accelerated
  • interactions with law enforcement this
  • the criminalization of black people when
  • you have more police officers patrolling
  • a concentrated area then of course you
  • have more stops you have more you know
  • situations where police officers say oh
  • they did
  • signal and then when I pulled them over
  • I pulled all occupants out of the car I
  • searched the car I found this gun
  • allegedly buried somewhere and all of a
  • sudden now you have a crime as a public
  • defender the the reputation is that you
  • know I'm going to lose most of my cases
  • I have one far more cases than I have
  • lost my name is Alisa Blair I am African
  • American I'm also a criminal defense
  • attorney as a public defender I've seen
  • the mistreatment of my clients I see the
  • disproportionate incarceration of black
  • and brown people and I see the excessive
  • force used in arrests police should be
  • given more resources I think police
  • should definitely be given more
  • resources so that they have other
  • options besides killing people officers
  • should have the resources available to
  • them to handle a situation without
  • casualties on either side yeah I mean as
  • an officer I appreciate hearing that
  • from a member of the public and from a
  • public defender and can speak to it for
  • myself and my department and what I've
  • seen in other departments in the area
  • and know that we need more resources and
  • different types of training
  • communication techniques to de-escalate
  • situations and different types of least
  • force option techniques but as a small
  • woman I also want to be able to
  • physically protect myself and it's it's
  • a hard balance the largest expense for
  • almost every municipality and county is
  • Public Safety there's plenty of money
  • but we don't have is enough implicit
  • bias training the things that we carry
  • about ourselves that define how we
  • interpret who we're interacting with by
  • judgement we don't have enough
  • contextualizing of the communities that
  • you're serving draw officers from the
  • communities from which they serve that
  • way when they go back and their policing
  • their own community that's deeper than
  • just the race of the officers so you
  • think that black police officers need to
  • be trained to be more sensitive to the
  • ball
  • community is that what you're saying no
  • I think black officers that are policing
  • black community should come from those
  • communities and I think a white officer
  • who comes from that community might even
  • be more effective than a black officer
  • from somewhere else I agree and I think
  • I think that that's a great point which
  • is that an officer a white officer a
  • black officer a female officer a spanic
  • officer could be just as good as any
  • other or better and that's because there
  • are things other than skin color and I
  • think that what's so concerning about
  • this dialogue is that it is pushing us
  • further back into black communities
  • white communities when really I thought
  • that the goal of Martin Luther King was
  • that we're gonna be moving to a society
  • where we were being judged by the
  • content of her character if we keep
  • moving further into identifying based on
  • our groups I think that we're doing a
  • disservice to his message which I think
  • was very powerful and that United the
  • country in many ways but not at the time
  • in Martin Luther King's time why folks
  • hated him it causes me to bristle and
  • and have an emotional reaction whenever
  • somebody says you know black people are
  • killing folks 50% in violent crimes and
  • then says Martin Luther King United the
  • country Martin Luther King would be down
  • for black lives matter the next
  • statement is I believe that all lives
  • matter
  • it's a little bit surprising below all
  • of this stuff below skin deeper than all
  • this there is a intrinsic god-given life
  • that's put inside of all of us I think
  • that it's concerning that any movement
  • would reject the fundamental premise of
  • that while preaching for equality
  • exactly at that point you're really not
  • an equality movement if you're really
  • only interested in speaking to your
  • specific group I truly believe in I
  • agree with everything that you say
  • everyone deserves life and I believe
  • that you know life is a gift
  • plain and simple all life yes all life
  • matters all life deserves a chance yeah
  • I think that especially in this platform
  • but also in the world in the country
  • that we live in today stating that all
  • lives matter takes away from the
  • inequality that's happening in the world
  • of course all lives matter it negates
  • the fact that something has to be
  • addressed and if you don't address it
  • and you don't recognize that there is a
  • problem that has to be changed then you
  • never change that's not our
  • intention our attention was just an
  • answer a simple question but it's not
  • what not everything is the same do all
  • lives matter
  • if you ask me if all lives have
  • intrinsic value if all lives are
  • valuable if all lives are worthy I would
  • have said hell yes and would have been
  • the first one in my chair all lives
  • matter is a specific phrase similar to
  • blue lives matter and anything else that
  • mattered after black lives were
  • exclaiming to have mattered to detract
  • to appropriate to subvert the message in
  • the framing and the narrative that's
  • being brought to us by the black lives
  • matter movement so I don't think anybody
  • here in this room thinks that any life
  • is less worthy than another's but the
  • phrase all lives matter was derived from
  • black lives matter to subvert black
  • lives matter and I won't come here and
  • sit down and say that that's okay I mean
  • I feel like we're just kind of going
  • into the weeds here question wasn't a
  • black lives matter it was a simple
  • question do you believe that all lives
  • matter
  • that's an interesting phrase connotation
  • meta phrase that you might
  • I think work I think not really I think
  • that you can attach whatever you want
  • right now that's a thing I try and step
  • back from you know whatever sort of
  • identity political stuff we have going
  • on and I try and deal with things
  • head-on based on reality when someone
  • says to me do you think all lives matter
  • I answer unequivocably yes every time
  • the same way if you ask me a black lives
  • matter or female lives matter I will
  • answer the same way do black lives
  • matter yes they do
  • I had conflicting feelings about coming
  • here today for me I was conflicted
  • because I I don't feel like I should
  • speak for POC oppression but as a white
  • woman I think that I can be of value to
  • other white people who may not
  • understand I'm Sandra cruising well I'm
  • from the 60s and I went to jail a lot
  • for fighting for women's rights and as a
  • human being I think it's important that
  • I speak out and speak up foreign
  • justices I'm feeling conflicted now as
  • someone who steps into the law
  • enforcement side as if we are on
  • opposite sides I am a law enforcement
  • officer and a black lives matter
  • supporter I find myself searching for
  • what to do and how to make a difference
  • and I've had moments of thinking about
  • leaving the force I finally had a
  • realization that this gives me an
  • opportunity to have a different angle as
  • a white woman and also as a police
  • officer to potentially make a difference
  • even if it's just with changing myself I
  • didn't hesitate I've been a civilian my
  • entire life and I consider it an honor
  • to have an opportunity to provide voice
  • for a law enforcement and the men and
  • women that serve our communities I think
  • it's fundamentally important for a
  • society to respect law enforcement men
  • and women that serve our communities
  • with tremendous honor and distinction
  • end up getting a bad rap and I think
  • that that's very harmful I think that it
  • is important I think it's imperative
  • to speak whenever you have an
  • opportunity to and I think that all of
  • us in whatever movements were part of or
  • whatever belief systems were part of
  • should use our gifts
  • you know de-escalation training is
  • sitting in a room like this with a
  • PowerPoint and walking officers through
  • scenarios and nothing nothing in a
  • scenario is ever going to be like the
  • real world in defense of officers like
  • only those of us that walk in the shoes
  • of having a badge and a gun and being in
  • these high-stress situations can really
  • articulate what it's like to make these
  • split-second decisions with our training
  • officers need to be in these types of
  • discussions owning their and being
  • like I did this wrong and I have this
  • prejudice and how can I sit with people
  • who can teach me and change me this is
  • what I think is sort of dangerous about
  • a conversation like this is that really
  • the only thing that I want law
  • enforcement being trained on is the law
  • okay there's nebulous conversation about
  • thinking about how I think about things
  • and so message the enforcement think of
  • ourselves as social workers with a gun
  • and that's concerning because your job
  • is to enforce the law as someone in the
  • field who wants more de-escalation
  • training it's not because I don't
  • believe in a lot of the laws that I
  • enforce and it is my job to enforce the
  • law I'm not a law warning officer that's
  • not what I signed up to do but we are
  • given the discretion to make choices and
  • that's why we need more training because
  • we're human beings just in my
  • perspective and I appreciate your
  • support of law enforcement and your
  • perspective yeah and I appreciate your
  • perspective as well as your your real
  • service that you've done so and I don't
  • want it our disagreement certainly don't
  • take away from my respect and admiration
  • for your service thank you thank y'all
  • respect the service of everyone who
  • works to the service of others I don't
  • think anybody in this room is against
  • individual officers the conversation is
  • to take a step back and recognize that
  • this institution is a relic of
  • anglo policing from european culture but
  • also slave catching and deep-rooted
  • racism in American policy and we need to
  • take that step back and re Center this
  • conversation on the fact that it's
  • bigger than just an officer I think part
  • of the problem is that we're still so
  • segregated where do we go to have these
  • conversations where do we go to learn
  • from each other to break down the
  • stereotypes it's systemic and I am so
  • thrilled that there's a black lives
  • matter movement it's really exciting
  • guys thank you so much I know this
  • hasn't been an easy one but I appreciate
  • your time
  • feel free to continue the discussion if
  • you'd like outside it's a pleasure I
  • really appreciate you speaking your
  • truth and hearing mine as well I really
  • appreciate all of you guys hey guys I'm
  • Jason and I'm Dan and we just want say
  • thank you once again for watching
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